That's what I thought too, but somehow that can be done pretty nicely with 100ms. It's not perfect, but it's useful and pretty fun overall. I don't know about the implementation though.beyond wrote:I would say, in terms of jamming, latency must not exceed 10 milliseconds. And if this is not a constant latency it must be impossible to play to/intolerable to listen to
Well, all I can say that I used it at a little under 100ms to New York and around 70ms to London and it worked pretty ok after I got used to it.Romeo Knight wrote:My Guitar Rig setup has a latency of 4 ms what is easily noticable during playing. I think - similar to beyond - that real jamming for at least semi-professional recording demands will begin around a lag of under 10 ms. Until this is possible it's only a "one side performing/other side recording and directing" solution.
I'm just ordering a MIDI equipped guitar right now, we have to try this sometime when the software matures a bit more. It's still in (early) beta, but IMHO promising anywayRomeo Knight wrote:You may be right that it's to a large amount a matter of getting used to but in the end we're talking about music and people don't like to match their playing to some technical restrictions - they like it the other way around. And especially regarding timing and holding a beat it's pretty necessary that it is this way. IMO.
Which one? Wouldn't be this Roland MIDI-Pickup easier or cheaper or whatever? (Maybe this would be an option for me, too)sumppi wrote:I'm just ordering a MIDI equipped guitar right now, we have to try this sometime when the software matures a bit more. It's still in (early) beta, but IMHO promising anyway
Sumppi
The Roland pickup is indeed a lot cheaper, but I don't like the prospect of having extra wired and bits in the guitar. Integrated solution is a lot better for possible live playing etc.Romeo Knight wrote:Which one? Wouldn't be this Roland MIDI-Pickup easier or cheaper or whatever? (Maybe this would be an option for me, too)
Cool, I didn't know Thomann has a finnish site.sumppi wrote:http://www.thomann.de/thoiw3_artikel-178351.html - I tried it last year in New York and it worked pretty nicely.
Ah, I see.
This is quite hard actually, I've used to think only the studio aspect but now that I have a band to think about I have to take the possible live and rehearsal usage into account.
Yeah, it's pretty popular in here actually. Popular enough to be a real threat to the local resellers at least, they even have some pretty knowledgeable finnish speaking staff there. I'd prefer local shops but Thomann beats pretty much every local shop in service, price and selection.Romeo Knight wrote: Cool, I didn't know Thomann has a finnish site.
Yeah, I haven't quite accepted the live idea myself eitherRomeo Knight wrote:What kind of music is this that you might use a MIDI guitar on stage? Quite courageous, as I'm used to avoid as much technical equipment on stage as possible (f*ck all those f*cking cables and plugs!)
Just thinking about using it for some synth patches etc, we play mostly guitar oriented rock but the need for live use might arise one day. But as for now, the studio use and notation help is the main use for that.
Lol - but can you imagine how out of time we'd be trying to cope with that latency... I mean.. we'd prolly think there was a latency live too, and try and compensateMatrix wrote:I think SID80's could use this to major effect for more practice time instead of having a rather unfair 1 days run through before a performance.
And it looks better,too.sumppi wrote:I actually just ordered the Les Paulish model instead of the cheapest one, the LP has mahogany body which is always a bonus. This one: http://www.thomann.de/thoiw3_artikel-178350.html
You mean Andreas? nah.. is timing was almost ok at the last gigChris Abbott wrote:madfiddler wrote:Ah, so you've played with {insert musician here who you wish to lightheartedly criticise while not really meaning it}Matrix wrote:we'd prolly think there was a latency live too, and try and compensate
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